and that is what the obama administration is arguing. that, look, the senate is not really functioning during these pro forma sessions. but in terms of whether the obama administration will appeal this, that is still a big question mark. the justice department has not weighed in yet, martin. however, a lot of legal analysts believe that it is likely that they will appeal this decision, and that includes our own pete williams. so we'll have to see moving forward what happens. >> okay. we also hear, kristin, that the president and secretary of state, hillary clinton, are sitting down together for an interview today with "60 minutes." this comes after mrs. clinton met with the president away from cameras. these former opponents have certainly come a long way over the years, have they not? what do you hear about their relationship today? >> reporter: well, they have come a long way, and according to my sources here, they have a strong relationship, and they really share the same vision for how to move the country forward and also agree on a